Bishop Willimon on GC2012 and ‘church by committee’

By William H. Willimon, Special Contributor…

General Conference in Tampa made history as the most expensive ($1,500 per minute!), least productive, most fatuous assemblage in the history of Methodism.  Sunday evening’s “A Celebration of Ministry” fiasco was a metaphor for our nearly two weeks at church expense: four hours of belabored supplication by the General Commission on Status and Role of Women, five Ethnic National Plans, Strengthening the Black Church for the 21st Century, United Methodist Men, Girl Scouts, Africa University and a number of other agencies I can’t remember.  A subtheme of that long night: even though we can’t cite specific fruit, please don’t force us to change or to expend less on ourselves.

Even after suffering this abuse, General Conference succumbed to the agencies’ pleadings.  In a post-GC blog, Mike Slaughter (who with Adam Hamilton eloquently—and futilely—warned GC that we must change or face certain death) told the truth: “Our denominational systems continue to resist change by protecting archaic structures.  From our seminaries to boards and agencies, institutional preservation was a strong resistant influence throughout GC.  Entrenched organizational bureaucracies resist accountability

By Sunday night’s end most of the exhausted delegates had fled the hall.  In a letter (as yet unanswered) the next day to the Commission on General Conference, Bishop Hope Morgan Ward (who had languished in the wings with dozens of missionaries and deaconesses awaiting commissioning) complained that there was “no coordination of the overall event … it was disjointed, repetitious, and random.”

To be fair Bishop Ward, the Commission on General Conference, in its inability (once again) to plan an affordable, manageable, productive General Conference shows no worse dysfunction than any number of our general agencies.  Besides, your criticisms imply that Sunday night was a CGC failure.

My organizational guru Ron Heifetz speaks of the “myth of the broken system.”  Heifetz argues that all systems are “healthy” in that systems produce what those who profit from the system desire.  Though the CGC can’t produce a complicated, large scale, two week convention, the CGC produces a General Conference that protects those in positions of power in our church.

“Want to insure that nothing will change and no one ever asks, ‘Now what exactly does your board produce for the advancement of the kingdom?’?  We can give you that—General Conference, Tampa, 2012.”

Some labor under the delusion that bishops actually play a role in planning and directing General Conference, in overseeing programs of the church, in guiding the direction of our connection.  Truth is, bishops not only have no voice and no vote at General Conference, we have no role in producing General Conference—and it shows.

Amid worship that wandered off into dizzying theological deviations, the forbidding challenge of so many languages (the few representatives from vanishing German Methodism got translations of the Daily Christian Advocate at the cost of $60k per delegate, even though they all speak better English than I), and the impossibility of thoughtful, honest debate among a nearly 1,000 member committee of the whole in eight or nine languages, one thing united General Conference 2012: distrust of leadership by bishops.

Though we bishops spent four years—guided by some of the church’s best management minds—devising our Call to Action, the chaotic General Administration committee (the last General Conference prohibited bishops from presiding for legislative committees) threw out the CTA’s agency restructuring plan.

The bishops’ accomplishments?  The Methodist Federation for Social Action received new life, the Board of Church and Society went home unscathed by reform, and Good News and an unlikely clutch of agitation groups united against the bishops.  A group from the Southeastern Jurisdiction, ridiculing the CTA as a power play by bishops, devised Plan B to thwart the bishops’ insidious oversight.  Plan B, attempting something unknown in the history of our connection—church by committee—got nowhere.  A group then hastily concocted Plan UMC, a flaccid compromise that limited episcopal participation.  An episcophobic GC passed Plan UMC.  The Judicial Council killed it the next day.  Like it or not, our constitution gives bishops the duty of oversight.

Delegates headed home (travel cost, almost $2 million), some embarrassed at having produced little in response to the loss of three million United Methodists in the U.S. since 1970, but serene that they had resisted all attempts to modify the size, cost and duration of General Conference and had protected the church’s bureaucracy. Welcome to church by committee.

Meeting with despondent young clergy at General Conference, I begged them to exercise spiritual discipline, to take their eyes off GC and focus upon the Holy Spirit’s primary arena, the congregations where they will preach next Sunday.  I counseled Adam and Mike to go home and expand the networks being equipped by Church of the Resurrection and Ginghamsburg Church—our sole hope for Holy Spirit orchestrated church-wide renewal.  No thoughtful restructuring, no accountability for growth and discipleship will come out of GC.  Ever.

Cheer up depressed bishops!  Having been resoundingly rebuffed by General Conference, bishops are now free to focus upon their annual conferences and those local churches and productive clergy (many of whom are too busy and too impatient to be delegates to GC) who are responsive to episcopal encouragement for risk-taking, visionary leadership.

While General Conference dithered, the Council of Bishops drastically reorganized, streamlined and economized our work, realigning ourselves to lead vital congregations.  Effective bishops are not awaiting General Conference permission to lead the UMC into a more vital future.  Now that General Conference has snubbed the bishops’ attempt to renew and to lead the general church’s moribund mechanisms, perhaps we can recommit to the historic practices of the episcopacy— preaching, teaching, and guarding the faith.

And the next time one of you has the temerity to whine about waste at General Conference, the loss of a couple of generations of young Christians, the ineffectiveness of a general church board or agency, or the infidelity of Methodism in retreat I will say, “I share your concern.  It’s a shame you weren’t in Tampa.”

The good news is that the mission of Jesus Christ will not be defeated. With us or without us, he shall get the church he demands.

William H. Willimon is bishop of the UMC’s North Alabama Conference and author of the recently released Bishop: The Art of Questioning Authority by an Authority in Question (Abingdon).



  1. johnfair says:

    Scripture has Jesus warn: "Beware the crowds" Democratic principles and democracy are not the same … leadership must come from the top after it has listened to both the grassroots as well as the higher authority … only then in working together can there be any sense of hope that the whole community can be saved while walking together into the future under the leadership of those the community has entrusted to lead … I just cannot imagine why anyone would aspire to be a Bishop in our system as it is currently established …

    • oldpastor59 says:

      I was at General Conference as a volunteer and I appreciate Bishop Wilimon's thoughts. He touched briefly on one of the concerns that greatly affected GC 2012. The UMC is growing disproportionately greater in the Central Conferences than in the US and with proportional representation in our system the Central Conferences have made their presence known. There are known at GC where translators have risen to the status of indispensability, and many GC activities look more like the UN than the UMC. And COSROW and GCORR "monitors" sometimes act more like paid lobbyists that seek to shape legislation, than inclusiveness servants.
      We were told that in 2008 28% of delegates were from the Central Conferences, while in 2012 this has grown to 41%. The Central Conference delegates made their presence known in the debates and voting on many of the key issues that were promoted as intended to "improve" United Methodism. For example, their strong opposition to the "catholic" nature of a "bishop of bishops" doomed the set-aside bishop matter to fail. I don't know what the answer is, but I think anybody can figure out what it is not, for General Conference to continue in the direction it has been heading!

  2. rev buck says:

    Bishop Willimon: I WAS in Tampa for a few days to see my daughter and son-in-law who were among those missionaires who waited four hours for their commissioning on Sunday night. As you know, they were a major part of Bishop Ward's concern. UM Reporter shared my reaction and blog post about this under "Old Songs Sung Badly: Three Metaphors for the Church" at . Would love for you to read it.

  3. mteston1 says:

    "A subtheme of that long night: even though we can’t cite specific fruit, please don’t force us to change or to expend less on ourselves." After almost 30 years of ministry, having grown 2 out of 4 appointments by over 500% I have decided to take a leave of absence. Having attempted to lead a partnership of four congregations, I say congregations not churches because only a quarter of one of those churches were willing to embrace a Methodist Missional Movement in west and central Akron, Ohio. We ran headlong into racism but more importantly social and class issues in each of the congregations. We also could not hold the line inside our own leadership team as leaders crossed ethical lines and when called out on it, blamed and scapegoated others. The tenets of discipleship, ie. holy disciplines, and a sense of and pursuit of "holiness" is so far removed anymore from the imagination of the pew sitter and leaders its frightening. Amusement and entertainment with silly grins have won the day. Jesus warned us by our fruit we would be known. I fear having spent the last few weeks pulling weeds from my flower beds that the church with a small c is known only by its weeds anymore. Weeds that wrap their roots around healthy vegetation slowly strangling the life and nutrients from the living. GC2012 certainly confirmed what I have suspected for years, a dead sect. As I said to my bride of 35 years, I am sad, sad indeed. Thanks for being you Bishop Willimon.

    • greghogan says:

      I am not a UMC pastor, but I am concerned about the mainline in general. Specifically, your departure is such a loss for the cause of Christ in this corner of Summit County. I definitely understand your actions, but just to let you know there is sadness in my heart for you in the frustration you felt. So much in the Church today is set against the mission of Jesus Christ. I fear what accountability we must give since we have presented such a warped message and called it the Gospel.

  4. Well-said! As I tweeted (@drrandywillis), this should be required reading for every United Methodist! (I'm looking forward my conference Bishop's Retreat next January where Bishop Willimon will be the guest speaker!)

  5. beckymotley says:

    So sad. I pray for our denomination and continue to seek opportunities to love Him and my neighbor, as He has commanded. There are still good people in our churches doing good things in their communities. I place my faith in Him and in those who do His work. Bureaucracy is not helping.

  6. rwarrengill3 says:

    "Church of the Resurrection and Ginghamsburg Church—our sole hope for Holy Spirit orchestrated church-wide renewal."

    Good God, I hope they're not our ONLY hope.

    • Bishop Willimon did not say that COR and Ginghamsburg were our only hope. He said "Holy Spirit orchestrated church-wide renewal" would come through networks they equip.

      The point, I think, is that renewal and transformation will come through networks at the grassroots level, not at General Conference. I couldn't agree more!

  7. jaltman81 says:

    The people who get elected to General Conference, the people who are chosen for General Boards and the people who get elected Bishop are the same people. There is no call for Willimon to point fingers at "them" and claim to be a part of some virtuous "us." Further, if the delegates to GC 2012 had, like good sheep, voted for the CTA IOT proposal as written, that plan ALSO would have been ruled unconstitutional. Why didn't the "best management minds" see that coming?
    No one really disputed the need for change. Disputing the means does not call for the kind of blaming language used not only by Willimon but by some others. One would not expect a 65 year old man in a responsible position to have a public temper tantrum, but, evidently, it does happen.

    • hgaither says:

      Bishop Willimon has always been a prophet in our midst. It's about time someone grew upset (tantrum as you called it) about the way we do business as a church. The UMC is in deep, deep trouble and I applaud the Bishop for having the insight fulness and courage to stand up and speak his mind. Amen Bishop, Amen!

  8. says:

    Its refreshing to hear a Bishop tell it like it is. Bishop Willimon and I have not always agreed on everything and we have discusssed some of those differences but on one thing we do agree – the UMC is totally dysfunctional and will not survive the next 50 years due to the stupidity and callousness to loss of credibity exhibited at GC.
    I applaued Adam and Mike for speaking up. I have been waving this warning cry for 25 years. Some are listening but not those who make the rules. Why would they vote themselves out of a job and as Schaller said some years ago – the inmates are now ruling the institution.
    Bill Easum
    Sr. Consultant, 21st Century Strategy
    Former Pastor

    • wallywells says:

      Bill- It's been nearly 10 years since my husband and I met you at Crossroads UMC in Oakdale, PA, near Pittsburgh. You were waving this warning cry at that seminar. As I read Bishop Willimon's article and the numerous comments I thought of your book "Sacred Cows Make Gourmet Burgers: Ministry Anytime, Anywhere, By Anyone" and then I came upon your posted comment. I remember hearing you say that weekend at Crossroads something like this (I'm paraphrasing because I can't remember exactly…) "If you can't work within the bureaucracy of your church to bring the change needed then work around it…or under it…or beside it…just do it even if you have to do it covertly. Do the work of ministry anyway."

      As I read Bishop Willimon's article I think he was saying it like this: "Now that General Conference has snubbed the bishops’ attempt to renew and to lead the general church’s moribund mechanisms, perhaps we can recommit to the historic practices of the episcopacy— preaching, teaching, and guarding the faith."

      Our Bishop, Thomas Bickerton, encouraged us on his blog in this way: "This General Conference was frustrating, sobering, and head scratching. We did a few things, but one thing we didn’t do was kill God."

  9. kimreisman says:

    As a delegate to GC2012 I DID NOT leave Tampa "serene that they had resisted all attempts to modify the size, cost and duration of General Conference and had protected the church’s bureaucracy." I left sad, frustrated, & angry.

    Some of us arrived in Tampa prepared to do the hard work required to effect badly needed change & left sorely disappointed. Some of us ARE NOT interested in having bishops who won't lead, but are desperately looking for those who will. In the aftermath of GC2012, rather than dwell on the dysfunction that is destined to continue given our corporate refusal to change, some of us have already begun to look to alternative ways forward for the UMC. You're right, Bishop Willimon, Jesus Christ will have the church he demands. I just want to make sure I'm part of it.

  10. AMEN and AMEN!

  11. Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful article. So here's the deal as I see it: we bow down to the idols of special interests and causes! Most special interests and causes are good, but they're not the best nor do they approach the divine; but because they have some good they are the most enticing and seductive of false gods. All anyone or any group needs to do is turn anything into a justice issue and get a free pass as the GC bows down before the idol presented. Then, the status quo is maintained. Then, the folks who've produced no fruit, live large from the offerings of status quo placed at the idol of their interest and issue while for the most part they make no demonstrable difference in the lives of those they purport to advocate for….sounds like the ways of the world to me…sounds like love that dis-ordered….

  12. Bishop Willimon seems to be saying, “Bishops don’t have TOO MUCH authority they have TOO LITTLE. If bishops only had more authority we would get things straightened out.” Years ago I had dinner in a hotel restaurant where the bishops of the southeastern jurisdiction had just met. Sharing with my waitress that I was a Methodist pastor I asked, “what did you think of our Methodist bishops” she replied, “The Catholics may say the Pope is the voice of Christ on earth but Methodist bishops think they are!” Where bishops have too much authority is in the appointment process. Their authority in this area (the most important act in the life of the local congregation) is almost absolute. This is our great stumbling block. We can talk all we want about making it happen at the congregational level. But as long as the UMC gives no authority in the appointment process to local congregations and to pastors who serve, our words are empty and oblivious. How can we make it happen at the local level when those above lay heavy burdens upon the local church. A Methodist church pays double in apportionments compared to a congregation of comparable budget strength in a Lutheran or Episcopal church. If Willimon could offer just one little self criticism of the episcopacy I might think there was hope. Instead even as organizational bureaucracies seek to survive at all costs so the episcopacy defends itself to the point of claiming perfection. Bishops don’t have as much authority as we think? Really? They have a lot more than 99% of us out here on the front lines. If the bishops really want to show their love for the Church they should set it free. Our bishops should start a movement to give local congregations and pastors who serve some real power of choice in the appointment process. This is where the most important authority in the Church lies. And our Bishops STILL have it all.

  13. stevemulford says:

    Good stuff, thank you Bishop.

  14. kiltwrb says:

    If you keep sending the same people to General Conference you keep getting the same result. It seems to me that we need to decide whether we are a moralistic social club or the Body of Christ. John Wesley said that "we have nothing to do but to save souls." Whatever happened to our passion for "lost souls?" We keep talking about evangelism, maybe it is time to start sharing our faith in Jesus Christ. "Blow the trumpet in Zion, Consecrate a fast, Call a sacred assembly;" Joel 2:15 (NKJV) Maybe we should seek the lord until He rains righteousness down upon us. We seem to be giving an uncertain sound, a sound of confusion and disunity. Perhaps prayer needs to be our focus until we receive a Word from the Holy Spirit. "If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land." 2 Chronicles 7:14 (NKJV) Let us seek the Lord while he may be found and pray that it is not to late for the United Methodist church that I wase raised in and that I love.

  15. aconstantobserver says:

    After much reading about all I could about the GC, it is apparent to me that our Church is in need of change… badly. Count me in as disappointed on several levels. Denial seems rampant, and decisions are not made by consensus or listening to brothers and sisters in Christ.
    As I recall, the ELCA made the same mistake, and guess what happened. Members left the ELCA and formed their own branch of the Lutheran church.
    Sad at it may be, I see either a drastic drop in membership especially after this GC, or members breaking away to form their own version of the UMC. The winds of change have come, but the Church doesn't acknowledge that there is any need to change.
    BTW, I am a 6th generation United Methodist/United Brethren. Change is coming and it may not be at all with what you're going to like to see…

  16. misguided says:

    ahem…. For God so loved the world that He did not send a committee, commission or hold a conference…….

  17. dsensing says:

    With only a few exceptions, the men and women who are delegates to the GC are precisely the ones who have prospered under the status quo. That is why Bishop Willimon is dead on target when he wrote, "No thoughtful restructuring, no accountability for growth and discipleship will come out of GC. Ever."

    But I think Bishop Willimon is off target when he wrote, "… bishops are now free to focus upon their annual conferences and those local churches and productive clergy … who are responsive to episcopal encouragement for risk-taking, visionary leadership."

    Except that the Church has already proven it punishes risk-taking, visionary leadership, especially in the elimination of guaranteed appointments. Here in the Tennessee Conference, the cabinet has published a document called, "Guidelines for Right-Sizing Church Appointments," which directly ties appointments to churches' payments of apportionments. You can read the document here:

    What will be the result of this one-two punch, at least in the Tenn. Conference? This, among other things:

    1. The UMC will suffer from a drive toward mediocrity. Why? Because the majority of pastors will realize that they can’t get fired by the cabinet or bishop if they remain invisible to them. Who is invisible? Average pastors, of course, because definitionally that's what most pastors’ are. With job security on the line, not standing out will become a pastor's prime imperative. Mediocrity, which is what “averageness” is, will become the norm.

    2. Not rocking the boat now becomes a pastor’s chief operating principle, especially in churches that are making the hierarchy happy by paying apportionments in full.

    3. And that means we will lose our best pastors. Men and women who are natural risk takers are absolutely vital for the future of this denomination and must be given every incentive to remain in ministry within the UMC. Indeed, they must be protected! But with mediocrity being the path to continued employment, risk-taker pastors will chafe and many, probably most, will find another way to live their calling and meet their indwelling need to minister on the edge rather than the comfortable middle.

    4. Loss of guaranteed appointment directly combats the imperatives of Vital Congregations because V.C. requires pastors to challenge their congregations and to force through changes that congregations would likely not adopt left to themselves. But these are the very things that, in the short term, may lead to dropped attendance and collections. So the imperative has been changed: my job clearly is to keep checks flowing to the Conference and that means my church needs to be an island of contentment. Of course, this is a poor long-term strategy, but I have absolutely no incentive to think in the long term since I am employed now only one year at a time.

    I am reminded of H.L. Mencken's definition of a committee: a creature with 12 legs, six bellies and no brain.

  18. jlomperis says:

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts, bishops. However, is it really fair to say that bishops "have no role in producing General Conference"? Yes, I know bishops cannot serve as delegates, but is it not true that The Council of Bishops:
    1. Unilaterally selects the members of the Commission on the General Conference, within certain broad requirements for fair geographic distribution?
    2. Unilaterally selects the members of the different General Conference legislative committees (reference, calendar/agenda, etc)?
    3. Take turns presiding over plenary sessions of General Conference, with the presiding bishop enjoys tremendous power to effectively give the final word on debatable points of order, to influence how quickly delegates move through their business, and to suggest adjourning early or coming back later?
    Somebody PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.

  19. tflmethodist says:

    In my 8 years of ministry, I have developed a radical change in personal theology and sense of evangelistic and missional ministry. Having gone through seminary training in weekend course of study, I have a much broader and faith driven undestanding of who we are and whose we are. Micah 6:8, a watch word for a past boy scout convocation at the annual UMM meeting, says, in part, "Has not Yahweh told us how we should live. We are to love kindness, do justice and walk humbly with our God." Jesus himself told us that to do for the least of us was to do for him. I have read "unchristian" and hear the disconnect between the younger generations and the dysfunctional church. I see the divisive racism in the pews that separate us more by culture than color, but is taken for color. I see preachers (not pastors in this sense) and "the needy" alike take advantage of the system and hurt the sweet surrender to the call to love and give hilariously. The saying holds that if God had provided salvation by committee, we'd all still be dying in our sins. But the problem is the church doesn't want to sacrifice personally. We want to throw money at the problem or pretend it doesn't exist. In our post-Christian world, the Bible thumpers aren't heard. Only those who roll up their sleeves and empty themselves for another's welfare have an impact on the world for Christ. The love of money is the root of all evil – and the church runs on apportionments. Our connectionalism is defined by apportionments. Our conferencing is centered and focused on apportionments. Our appointments are the crowning result of apportionments. I don't know what exactly the Council of Bishops' idea of reform and change are. I certainly hope it's not the socialist doctrine of central control and redistribution of wealth that so many on the clergy side espouse. I hope it's a call for individual transformation and a collaboration of gifts, talents, graces and resources as the body of Christ. If the church doesn't change the way we worship corporately and minister individually, we will become irrelevant in our culture, if it's not too late already. Study the prophets – hear their repudiation of the status quo – "Temple, temple, temple." Hear their castigation for neglecting and taking advantage of the last, the least and the lost among them. Hear their waring of doom. But, in all of the negative rhetoric, hear the blessed hope and promise of the covenant to those who would be not successful, but obedient. Hear what the Spirit says to the churches. Even so, come Lord!

  20. rlrobinson says:

    While I agree with the spirit of Bishop Willimon's reflection, there are a few areas in which he over-reaches or remembers only selectively.

    1. The method of decision-making at General Conference is no longer effective and does not represent much of the church which has moved on to use prayerful discernment to achieve holy conferencing resulting in healthy decision-making. Ask Boards of Ordained Ministry and cabinets who have successfully made this leap. A few years ago, even a bishop, Susan Wolfe Hassinger, led the entire New England Conference to arrive at a monumental decision by using prayerful discernment. Obviously, Roberts Rules of Order and the General Conference Rules of Order no longer set the body free to make decisions that will advance the church's mission. Did anyone think to inquire of those parts of the church that effectively use these methods which are truer to our gathering as "church?" I was intrigued that the Faith and Order committee engaged in this process before taking up the issue of ordination of self-avowed practicing homosexuals. The atmosphere in the room changed from rule-keeping to conferencing.

    2. I believe Willimon underestimates the number of delegates who arrived in Tampa willing to make the necessary deep and profound change we all know must occur. He also overestimates the IOT/CTA proposal in light of the constitution. It was as flawed as the "flaccid compromise" which failed, for precisely the same reasons: GC would have given away too much of its authority, and the COB oversight function would have been compromised. Can't anyone in leadership (including the COB and "the best management minds in the church") read the constitution first and devise a restructuring plan within constitutional boundaries?

    I will give Willimon the benefit of the doubt: he uses hyperbole—exaggeration to make the point—but in doing so comes across a little too condemnatory. Perhaps he will now focus his energies on suggesting appropriate next steps, rather than second guessing after he fact…good fodder for his next book.

  21. pastor.terryp says:

    Many times over the last years I have been thankful for Bishop Willimon's insight and willingness to speak out..

    I was ashamed to report to my congregation how little GC2012 did.

    I think he understates the power of the bishops in GC. They are, after all, assigned presidential authority. I watched parts of the video feed and there were times when it was quite obvious that the presiding bishop was steering the debate by selecting who would speak and when, their often nonverbal replies, setting the pace of debate (for instance speeding it up toward calling the question if it was going their way, slowing it down if it wasn't) etc…

    The bishops were not the only ones slapped down at GC. Every elder who has faithfully served, dutifully moved to "challenge" churches, sacrificed nights with family for church meetings, lost sleep over the struggles of the church or spent endless hours in prayer for the church both local and global was slapped down with the undebated vote of no confidence on guaranteed appointment. Although I understand it really changes very little, which is typical of GC 2012, the message and the spirit of that message ( especially in context, following 24 hours upon a hot debate on lifetime episcopal appointment) devalued every faithful elder in the connection.

    Thank you for you thoughts Bishop, and thank you for a wonderful message at the end of the Festival of Homiletics.

  22. dsensing says:

    I posted other thoughts about this on my blog, namely that what we are seeing is the Death Throes of the Blue Model Church.

    If you want to see a microcosm of the decaying and death of Blue Model organizations, California is a good example for government and The United Methodist Church for religious bodies.

    The Blue Model was described by Prof. Walter Russell Mead as, "The core institutions, ideas and expectations that shaped American life for the sixty years after the New Deal." The problem is that these things "don’t work anymore, and the gaps between the social system we’ve inherited and the system we need today are becoming so wide that we can no longer paper them over or ignore them."

    I assess what this portends for the UMC in my post.

  23. lakesidepastor says:

    At least you are an equal opportunity insulter. I think that since you are only 66 you should select an Annual Conference and ask to be appointed to a struggling church, especially a "clergy killer church" and see how difficult parish ministry really is. Be great material for a future book.

  24. jlomperis says:

    Oh, and I forgot,
    4. Is it not up to whichever bishop is presiding over the plenary session to unilaterally decide which delegates will be called on to speak and which delegates will be ignored?
    5. Have significant influence over the clergy from their own respective episcopal areas, by virtue of our appointment system (with this General Conference strengthening bishops' power much further by ending guaranteed appointments)?

    Furthermore, when ordinary grassroots United Methodists read in the UM Reporter that a group of non-delegate activists led by Amy Delong (of all people!) publicly called on the bishops to do an end-run around the normal General Conference processes to make sure that ending our denomination's affiliation with the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice (a move that was supported by a strong majority of its legislative committee) was not even brought up for a vote, and that she apparently got her wish, how does this help the people of our shrinking denomination (in the US) to have trust in how well our bishops have used the tremendous authority and power that they already have?

  25. preachee says:

    Bishop, you missed a few points. Bishops are lacking credibility because we do not see any action on you holding each other accountable. And I saw no action to remove the "lifetime Bishop" security from the Bishops. As an Elder I interpret this to mean that instead of standing as a fellow Elder with a special administrative & Spiritual task, Bishops stand as an elite class with a golden parachute. I also regret that I have often been left to take dramatic steps to improve the church by myself, knowing that If it turned out, there would be many to jump on the bandwagon of credit, but if it did not I would be alone…. a risk I am willing to take regardless. The CTA report itself is a sad and substandard form of "Natural Church Development Process" which is way more advanced and provides ongoing tools….lookes like the Bishops got hooked into funding what was already out there…but better. This leaves me not trusting the "real" basis of CTA, or at least wanting to know how much the study cost, and who made the money. Still I rejoice that the Holy Spirit may work through the system, or in spite of the system. But the Holy Spirit is always working.

  26. willrev says:

    I was attending a continuing education event at Lake Junaluska with Bishop Willimon a few years back when Bishop Willimon brought up the issue of clergy effectiveness as being the main hinderance in the UMC growth and effectiveness. The pastors there got visibly and verbally upset. We started pressing for answers on the definition of clergy effectiveness and how this would look when put in place. I openly confronted Bishop Willimon about this saying that our conference bishop was spewing the same rhetoric and that they must be talking about and planning changes in the Council of Bishops. Bishop Willimon became very evasive and said it must be a coincidence. That was not true. These changes have been in the works for many years and that is why the bishops are so angry at their will for the church not being voted in by the General Conference.

    The bishops want the payment of apportionments to be the ONLY measure of clergy effectiveness. They know which churches can and cannot pay in the conferences. Now that guaranteed appointment is gone, they strategy will be to send the creative, visionary, innovative, non-conformist clergy of any theological persuasion to the churches that cannot pay apportionments. Then those clergy will be charged with ineffectiveness and put out of ministry in the UMC. Those churches will be used as pawns to help cleanse the denomination of clergy who are unwanted. The clergy who are politically connected and bring in the money will be rewarded.

    No one wants to call a spade a spade, but the giant denominational structure is taking more and more money from the local churches who cannot afford to upkeep property and do programs once that money is gone. Yet bishops and ds's don't want to downsize their own salaries. In some conferences the salaries and benefits of 12 District Superintendents alone costs two to three million dollars a year. Many of them go on to work for the general boards and agencies after leaving conference ministry and receive big pay checks. The restructuring would have ensured the pay checks kept rolling in to them.

    Now the entire charade may come crashing down as the WW2 generation dies off. They were the big tithers in the UMC. The younger people do not tithe and give as the older generation did. They are in too much debt for education, homes, and the like. Bishop Willimon has a home in Durham, a home in Alabama and a vacation home in the NC mountains. It takes a big salary to afford the luxury of owning three homes. In a truly Jesus centered model of ministry in the UMC, we might resemble British Methodists where all clergy are paid the same wage and eliminate the ladder climbing competition where everyone wants to be bishop to get the big money and where DS's still pastor a local church in addition to thier duties. Real bishops are not elected in American style popularity contests. In the historical church they were selected and often chosen against their will for their humility and separateness from the world. The biblical way of selecting bishops was by the Holy Spirit and the casting of lots – not a popularity contest of people who chased after money, status and position.

    • adamspi says:

      I thougt it very interesting (or sad) that the guaranteed appointment was done away with. But what is more alarming, at least to me, is that a definitive and clear definition of "effective" was not decided. As it is now it is a subjective matter, prone to the whims of situational definition. The bishops do not have a good working meaning of "clergy effectiveness" yet, they pushed for the removal of guaranteed appointments. I would also like to see the meaning of "bishop effectiveness."

  27. rpatrickmoore says:

    Bishop welcome to the real world of leading real people in real situations. Number one lesson is that leaders ultimately can't change people or systems. People have to choose to change. We can help create healthy environments for spiritual vitality, but people must choose to participate. This why many clergy have felt slighted with all the clergy effectiveness talk because it is basically a sick co-dependent system that Bishops want us to participate in. Now that you all have gotten a taste of what is like to plan, pray, strategize, talk adaptive change, and then nothing happens…you now know what it is like to be a pastor of a local congregation in a crumbling Christendom. You can blame our polity, our pastors, and our general boards, but ultimately you have to blame this idol of being the "one" who led the "change."

    • adamspi says:

      We are all worried that the UMC is dying off–losing many members by the day. The Book of Discipline has enough authorization in it to fulfill what needs to be done without any more legislation or amendment. If the Bishops and District Superintendents would get some back bone or guts and enforce the BOD things would probably be different. I fully agree with rpatrickmoore (above). The Bishops and such want local pastors to change the local church but in many instances give them absolutely no authority nor support to do that. If the local pastor had the support of the Bishop and District Supers then she/he could actually bring about some changes, but not until the local church pastors get the needed support from the bishop and such.

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