Clergy, laity group asks censure of Bishop Talbert over gay rights activism


Some United Methodist clergy and laity are calling on the Council of Bishops to censure retired Bishop Melvin Talbert for encouraging clergy to go against the Book of Discipline by officiating at same-sex unions.

The 70-plus member group, including leaders of the Good News and Confessing Movement caucuses, made their appeal in a letter sent to all bishops.

Bishop Talbert could not immediately be reached for comment.

The letter asks the executive committee of the Council of Bishops to file a formal complaint against Bishop Talbert. It also asks that a handful of other bishops, some active and retired, be censured if they don’t issue statements repudiating Bishop Talbert’s call for clergy to perform same-sex unions.

According to the letter, those bishops stood with Bishop Talbert as he made such an appeal at a gay rights rally held during General Conference in Tampa. The letter says some of those bishops, when contacted,  responded that they did not know what Bishop Talbert was going to say and do not support disobedience of the Discipline.

The letter notes that Bishop Talbert was named to lead the Western Jurisdictional Conference’s Strategic Plan for Gospel Obedience, and in that capacity also has encouraged clergy to go against the Discipline.

The Discipline, the denomination’s law book, declares the practice of homosexuality to be incompatible with Christian teaching. Church law also forbids the ordination of gay clergy and forbids clergy from officiating at same-sex unions.

“We are deeply concerned that Bishop Talbert has undercut that very discipline and order,” the group’s letter says, “by encouraging dissension, disunity and disobedience, and advocating anarchy and chaos in response to the actions of the 2012 General Conference, taken after focused prayer, study, and holy conferencing.”

Efforts to change the Discipline in regard to homosexuality have consistently failed at General Conference, including the one in Tampa in late April and early May. Delegates also voted down statements that sought to acknowledge the UMC’s division on the issue.

More than 1,000 UM clergy have signed statements pledging to officiate at same-sex unions, and many of them have said they consder the Discipline to be contradictory, since it strongly opposes discrimination.  Many also have said their understanding of the gospel requires them to go against the Discipline’s positions on homosexuality.

At least 15 annual conferences this summer went on record as rejecting the church’s positions on homosexuality, according to United Methodist News Service.

UMNS also reported that Bishop Talbert preached the ordination sermon at the California-Pacific Annual Conference and said, “There will be times when you will be called and challenged to choose between God and your church because your church does not always `do the right thing.'”

In a November 2011 letter, the Council of Bishops noted strife within the denomination over the issue of homosexuality, but stressed that bishops would uphold the Discipline.

Here’s the letter the clergy/laity group sent to the bishops. It was dated July 19, 2012. Signatories are at the bottom: 

Grace and peace to you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ! We uphold you in our prayers for the important work that God has entrusted to you on behalf of His church.

We are compelled to write this open letter to you out of deep love for The United Methodist Church. Our unity is once more challenged by the remarks of one of your number and we ask that you take appropriate action to respond.

According to the websites of Methodists In New Directions and the Reconciling Ministries Network (, Bishop Melvin Talbert made the following comments on May 4, 2012, at the Love Your Neighbor Tabernacle in Tampa, Florida:

“The derogatory rules and restrictions in the Book of Discipline are immoral and unjust and no longer deserve our loyalty and obedience. Thus the time has come for those of us who are faithful to the Gospel of Jesus Christ to do what is required of us….

The time has come to join in an act of Biblical obedience. I call on the more than 1,100 clergy [who have signed marriage initiatives] to stand firm in their resolve to perform marriages for same-sex couples and to do so in the course of their normal pastoral duties, thus defying the laws that prohibit them from doing so….

The time for talking is over. It’s time for us to act in defiance of unjust words of immoral and derogatory discrimination and laws that are doing harm to our GLBT sisters and brothers.”

The Reconciling Ministries Network reports that standing with Bishop Talbert were retired Bishops Judy Craig, Violet Fisher, Elias Galvan, Susan Hassinger, Don Ott, Sharon Rader, Roy Sano, and Jack Tuell; and active Bishops Warner Brown, Sally Dyck, Grant Hagiya, Bob Hoshibata, John Schol, and Mary Ann Swenson.

Each bishop of The United Methodist Church has agreed to live within the covenant defined by our Book of Discipline. Each bishop is charged in the Book of Discipline “to uphold the discipline and order of the Church.” We are deeply concerned that Bishop Talbert has undercut that very discipline and order, by encouraging dissension, disunity and disobedience, and advocating anarchy and chaos in response to the actions of the 2012 General Conference, taken after focused prayer, study, and holy conferencing. Sadly, Bishop Talbert reiterated his call for UM pastors to disobey the Book of Discipline and pledged to do so himself, if given the opportunity, when he preached at the ordination service on June 16 at the California-Pacific Annual Conference.

By their action in standing with Bishop Talbert as he made his statement at the Love Your Neighbor Tabernacle, the other bishops appear to have lent their credibility and influence to his call for disobedience. We have corresponded with all the bishops who stood with Bishop Talbert and received replies from most of them. Some did not know ahead of time what Bishop Talbert was going to say and do not support his call for disobedience. Others did know and do support that call. Without a public statement clarifying where those bishops stand, however, it appears to our church that all were supportive.

In its November 10, 2011 letter to United Methodist Sisters and Brothers in Christ, this Council of Bishops declared:

“At times like these we call upon each other to remember and renew our covenant with God and with one another as United Methodist Christians. As bishops chosen, consecrated and assigned by the Church, we declare once again our commitment to be faithful to this covenant we have made. As the Council of Bishops we will uphold the Book of Discipline as established by General Conference.”

The actions of Bishop Talbert specifically, and any of those retired and active bishops who stood with him, knowing what he was prepared to say, directly contravene this commitment made by the Council of Bishops as a whole.

We commend the commitment of the Council of Bishops to be intentional in holding one another mutually accountable to the office and responsibilities of bishops as outlined in our Book of Discipline. Now is the time for you to demonstrate your commitment by acting to hold these who have been disobedient to the order and discipline of The United Methodist Church accountable for their inflammatory actions. We ask that:

–          the executive committee of the Council of Bishops and the colleges of bishops in the various jurisdictional and central conferences when they next meet publicly censure Bishop Talbert for his statement;

–          the executive committee of the Council of Bishops request that those retired and active bishops who stood with Bishop Talbert as he called for disobedience to the Book of Discipline issue specific statements repudiating Bishop Talbert’s call to perform same-sex unions, and should they fail to do so, publicly censure them for their actions;

–          the executive committee of the Council of Bishops file a formal complaint against Bishop Melvin Talbert under ¶ 2702 (e) [disobedience to the order and discipline of The United Methodist Church in violating his responsibility to uphold that order and discipline], ¶ 2702 (f) [dissemination of doctrines contrary to the established standards of doctrine of The United Methodist Church], and ¶ 2702 (g) [engaging in behavior that undermines the ministry of another pastor];

We acknowledge that these are challenging days in The United Methodist Church. We affirm our commitment to the Book of Discipline, including its statement “that all persons are individuals of sacred worth, created in the image of God. All persons need the ministry of the Church in their struggles for human fulfillment, as well as the spiritual and emotional care of a fellowship that enables reconciling relationships with God, with others, and with self.” We fully support the Discipline’s affirmation “that God’s grace is available to all. We will seek to live together in Christian community, welcoming, forgiving, and loving one another, as Christ has loved and accepted us. We implore families and churches not to reject or condemn lesbian and gay members and friends. We commit ourselves to be in ministry for and with all persons.”

We will continue to uphold you in prayer. We will continue to work together to preserve the unity and integrity of The United Methodist Church, and to make disciples for the transformation of the world. We look forward to the actions you will take in response to this open letter.

Yours in Christ,

Rev. Ed Robb III, The Woodlands United Methodist Church, The Woodlands, TX

Rev. Thom Abrahamson, Armona UMC & Lemoore UMC, Lemoore, CA

Rev. John Allen, Flower Mound Trietsch Memorial United Methodist Church, Flower Mound, TX

Rev. Scott Allred, Aldersgate UMC, Chico, CA

Turner Arant, Confessing Movement Board, Sunflower, MS

Rev. Larry Baird, Trinity UMC, President of Confessing Movement Board, Grand Island, NY

Rev. Richard Bayard, Retired Elder, Visalia, CA

Rev. Bill Bouknight, Associate Director, Confessing Movement, Columbia, SC

Rev. Keith Boyette, Wilderness Community UMC, Chair of Good News Board, Spotsylvania, VA

Rev. James Buskirk, Confessing Movement Board, Tulsa, OK

Rev. Riley Case, Associate Director, Confessing Movement, Kokomo, IN

Rev. Bryan Collier, The Orchard United Methodist Church, Tupelo, MS

Rev. Robert Collins, Jr., Centenary UMC, Modesto, CA

Robert Draper, Good News Board, Hot Springs, AR

Rev. Maxie Dunnam, Confessing Movement Board, Memphis, TN

Mickey Ellis, Confessing Movement Board, Houston, TX

Rev. Charles Ferrara, New Life Community Church United Methodist, New Fairfield, CT

Rev. Scott Field, Wheatland Salem UMC, Good News Board, Naperville, IL

Rev. John Gerlach, Trinity UMC, Windsor, CT

Rev. Robert Gorrell, Church of the Servant, Oklahoma City, OK

Judy Graham, Confessing Movement Board, Houston, TX

Rev. Ronald Greilich, Elder, Retired, Clovis, CA

Rev. John Grenfell, Jr., Good News Board, Fort Gratiot, MI

Rev. Randall Hageman, Gateway Community United Methodist Congregation, Houston, TX

Rev. Rick Hanse, West Hartford UMC, West Hartford, CT

Rev. Chet Harris, Dueber UMC, Canton, OH

Rev. Tom Harrison, Asbury United Methodist Church, Tulsa, OK

Rev. Matthew Hartsfield, Van Dyke United Methodist Church, Tampa, FL

July 19, 2012

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Rev. Tony Holifield, Central United Methodist Church, Fayetteville, AR

Rev. Godfrey Hubert, Foundry United Methodist Church, Houston, TX

Rev. Kent Jackson, Branford UMC, Branford, CT

Tom Junk, Confessing Movement Board, Tulsa, OK

Joe Kilpatrick, Confessing Movement Board, Tucker, GA

Rev. Chong IL Kim, Bible UMC of New York, Dix Hills, NY

Katy Kiser, Good News Board, Carrollton, TX

Rev. Thomas Lambrecht, Vice President, Good News, Spring, TX

Rev. Charles Kyker, Christ United Methodist Church, Confessing Movement Board, Hickory, NC

Rev. James Leggett, Grace Fellowship United Methodist Church, Katy, TX

Rev. Kenneth Levingston, Jones Memorial UMC, Houston, TX

Rev. Joseph MacLaren, University Carillon United Methodist Church, Oviedo, FL

Rev. David Mantz, First UMC, Port Jefferson, NY

Rev. Jim Martin, The River UMC, Richmond, TX

Rev. John Ed Mathison, Confessing Movement Board, Montgomery, AL

Rev. Gregory McGarvey, Carmel UMC, Confessing Movement Board, Carmel, IN

Rev. Randell Mickler, Mt. Bethel United Methodist Church, Marietta, GA

Dan Moore, Confessing Movement Board, Martinsville, IN

Rev. Delroy Murdock, St. Paul’s UMC, Brooklyn, NY

Norman Neel, Good News Board, San Augustine, TX

Rev. Allen Newton, St. James UMC, Montgomery, AL

Rev. Randy Paige, Christ Church United Methodist, Port Jefferson Station, NY

Rev. James Presig, Lee’s Summit United Methodist Church, Lee’s Summit, MO

Rev. Glen Raley, First UMC, Marysville, CA

Rev. Robert Renfroe, The Woodlands United Methodist Church, President of Good News,

The Woodlands, TX

Donna Schlitt, Confessing Movement Board, Houston, TX

Rev. Mike Schreiner, Morning Star Church, O’Fallon, MO

Donald Shell, Good News Board, Houston, TX

Rev. Dan Slagle, FaithBridge Church, Good News Board, Spring, TX

Rev. Ralph Sigler, Harvest Church UM, Dothan, AL

Rev. Roger Spahr, Cornerstone Church, Watertown, SD

David Stanley, Confessing Movement Board, Muscatine, IA

Helen Rhea Stumbo, Good News Board, Fort Valley, GA

Rev. Jeff Switzer, Sandtown UMC, Confessing Movement Board, Sandtown, MS

Rev. Alpher Sylvester, Bethany UMC, Brooklyn, NY

Rev. Richard Thompson, First UMC, Good News Board, Bakersfield, CA

Rev. Robert Thompson-Gee, Poughkeepsie UMC, Poughkeepsie, NY

Rev. Doug Thrasher, Hillside United Methodist Church, Woodstock, GA

Rev. Robert Tindale, Killearn United Methodist Church, Tallahassee, FL

Rev. Kirt Watkins, Sea Cliff UMC, Sea Cliff, NY

Rev. Stephen Wende, First United Methodist Church, Confessing Movement Board, Houston, TX

Rev. Ken Werlein, FaithBridge Church, Spring, TX

Rev. Alice Wolfe, Christ UMC, Baltimore, OH

Rev. Steve Wood, Mount Pisgah United Methodist Church, Confessing Movement Board, Alpharetta, GA

Marianne Wright, Good News Board, Valdosta, GA

Rev. Harold Zimmick, Asbury UMC, Madison, WI



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How can we forget God's commandment to love God and our neighbor as we love ourselves?
everyone ?
Can't we honor God by honoring his creations – gay straight, black,brown yellow white? he doesn't ever exclude anyone from his love and acceptance.

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As an active member of the Belmont United Methodist Church Reconciling Ministry Team (Nashville, TN) , I proudly stand with and support Bishop Mel Talbert, My wife and I are the proud parents of our lesbian daughter who lost her job in a United Methodist Church because of her lesbian status – now she is a very active member of a reconciling Episcopal Church in New York City, teaches autistic children in the NYC public school system and a runner in the "Front Runners Club" of NYC. As a retired deacon in the United Methodist Church I strongly support the… Read more »


The United Methodist Church waited until the Federal Government integrated the country before doing anything. The same is playing true with this issue as is seen by these people who have their heads in the sand. God made us all and loves us us. We are all adopted by Christ. Let's love one another and stop pointing fingers as to who to include.


Last Sunday, the CBS Morning Show's lead story concerned the issue of gay marriage in the State of Washington. Well into the report, they interviewed a United Methodist pastor from Seattle named Monica Corsaro. She officiated at a service that "looked like a wedding" (but was not legal due to Washington state law) of a lesbian couple who were also interviewed in the report. I was quite shocked to see this flagrant announcement of a violation of our Book of Discipline. I hope this same group of pastors will view the report and prayerfully consider how to proceed. Based on… Read more »


The Book of Discipline only applies to those individuals who sit in the pews on Sunday morning in any give united methodist church. Hierarchy and lots of pastors hardly pay any attention to the that publication.


I find this request, really an attempt to keep people under wraps and prevent them from expressing their faith as they see and understand it. These people place rule above love.


Bishop Talbert and those who hold his views on homosexuality are sadly confused about the important differences between God's Law and secular laws, and they cause confusion in the open hearts and minds of the faithful by advocating secular positions as if there should be no difference at all versus The Law. We can be thankful for the clergy who DO see the very important distinction and have the courage to stand for what is right even if it is not the current culturally popular opinion.


The advocates of gay marriage want us to believe that gay marriage is the equivalent of straight marriage, but is it, really? Let’s take a look: 1) Sexual relations in straight marriage involve body parts that God designed for each other, whereas sexual relations in gay marriage involve body parts that God designed for vastly different purposes; 2) God approves of and blesses straight marriage, but He doesn’t even recognize gay “marriage” as being legitimate, because it doesn’t meet the requirements of His definition; 3) straight marriage can fulfill God’s primary purpose for sexual intercourse by producing children to “fill… Read more »

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