Recently Read: A church divided

BostonGlobe1The Boston Globe unpacks the current situation of The United Methodist Church:

“The United Methodist Church is falling apart,” said Will Green, the pastor of St. Nicholas United Methodist Church in Hull, where Schaefer’s son Tim attends church. “Even in the past couple of weeks, meeting by meeting, event by event, it is coming undone.”

Some who support the church’s position on homosexuality agree.

“Further conversation is not going to resolve the division in our church,” said the Rev. Thomas Lambrecht, vice president of Good News, a Methodist ministry that promotes orthodox viewpoints, and who advises the church prosecutor in the Schaefer trial. “Especially when people who favor the performing of same-sex weddings are defying church policy.”

via A church divided: Rift over homosexuality threatens viability of Methodist Church – Metro – The Boston Globe.

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Wes Andrews
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And any Bishop or jury that penalizes clergy for 20 or 30 days for breaking their vows to uphold the BOD dishonors the BOD, the spirit of the BOD, and all who work hard at each General Conference to sincerely and prayerfully define what it means to be a United Methodist. Seriously, our Bishops need to recommit to the Historic Wesleyan Questions. We all were required to voluntarily and honestly answer them. If they don’t or can’t answer in the appropriate affirmative, then they SHOULD have the integrity to leave and commit to an organization that affirms their non-Biblical stance… Read more »
Wes Andrews
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Jay, your reading of Scripture is very scary, not because we disagree, but because you turn the meaning of verses upside down to back your point of view. It's wrong when conservatives do it, it's wrong with liberals do it and it's wrong when anyone does it. Scripture is perfectly clear about the definition of marriage. And the reason homosexuality is even mentioned above the other examples you mention in regard to the BOD is that homosexuals are the ones openly challenging Scripture at General Conference not polygamists.

Jay
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Well, Talbot Davis, why doesn't the Book of Discipline forbid polygamy? Or divorce or fornication or masturbation or adultery? No. It singles out homosexuality as though the Bible were somehow obsessed with homosexuality the way conservatives in the UMC are. It isn't. There are very few passages in the Bible that even can be said to remotely refer to homosexuality, especially as we now understand homosexuality. But Jesus unambiguously condemned divorce. Paul unambiguously condemned the practice of women speaking in church. Yet the BoD says nothing about divorce or about women. Indeed, the UMC (quite rightly, I think) ordains women.… Read more »
John JP Patterson
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Hmmm… It seems to me the issue is about relationships. Jesus commanded us to love each other, as I have loved you. I do not recall him ever commanding us to regulate or condemn who people love. The issue is not Who you love, but Do you love.

Talbot Davis
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Then what's to stop straight males from loving her and her and her and her? Or straight females from loving him and him and him and him? If the weight of Scripture regarding homosexuality is no longer prescriptive, then why should the weight of Scripture regarding monogamy be any more so? By the love logic you employ here, it can't.

Jay
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The Church's task is to defend Jesus's great commandment of law. It is not to enforce legalisms. Only a pharisee would believe that the lie that homosexuality is incompatible with Christianity.

Jeffrey Olah
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it seems that the members in the more liberal parts of the country like the northeast, Illinois and California are the ones that are for changing doctrine

florida guy '48
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A long time ago, I was confirmed in the Episcopal Church, where, for many years, I attended worship services, until last year when the Episcopal Bishops approved a rite for gay weddings. So it is heartwarming to see the UMC stand up for the clear New Testament teaching (in Matthew, Mark and First Corinthians) that marriage is one man and one woman. One wonders, if this increasingly pagan society approved of, say, polygamy, would the liberals in the Protestantism insist that the churches celebrate polygamous unions? Probably. Unfortunately, the church makes herself superfluous when she simply embraces *whatever* secular society… Read more »
Benen
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In your kindness and grace, please do not confuse the word "orthodox" with the words "conservative" or "evangelical". The "Good News" is not an official United Methodist association, nor are its views theologically orthodox. Please do not confuse the beautiful tradition of Orthodox Christianity with something wholly different.

bill krill
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Here is the real division: those who believe that humankind understands and interprets everything in a static Scripture correctly, and those who believe the Scripture is a living thing that is never finished revealing God's truth. The former cannot accept that the latter see a revelation that love trumps plumbing.

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