UMReporter Roundtable – Episode 3 (5/12/2016)

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Host Laura Allen is joined by Charles Harrison, David Watson, Chris Ritter, Chris Wilterdink, and Clay Andrew to talk about today’s events at the United Methodist General Conference in Portland, OR.

  1. Laura, Charles, David, Chris talk about the demise of Rule 44, Higher Education, and Methodism and worship.
  2. Laura, Charles, Chris, and Clay talked how young people and the city of Portland are influenced by the United Methodist Church.

 

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Jay
Guest

Too bad a pro-Rule 44 person wasn’t interviewed. This says a lot about the UMR. 🙁

Charles Harrison
Admin

Jay, Actually 4 of the 6 folks on mic were in favor of Rule 44.

Evelyn
Guest

Favorite comment: “Methodists sing their faith”.

Christa
Guest

Hmmm…. the implied assumption that hymns are either traditional Wesleyan style hymns or ‘contemporary music’…. may I point out the Gospel music tradition? With all this talk about music, I’m very surprised that this vital, beautiful musical tradition coming out of the African-American church wasn’t mentioned (unless I missed the mention?) Is the makeup of the Method-nerds a cultural mixed, or do y’all lean to one demographic?

Christa
Guest

(cultural MIX, rather)

Christa
Guest

Okay…. listening in reverse order, and just listened to episode 1. I’m gonna assume all those varying musical styles you mentioned there were still on your mind when you recorded this. Not the first time I’ve made an ass of myself in the past 48 hours. Sorry about that.

Keith A. Jenkins
Guest
I agree with Jay. Not only was no one in favor of Rule 44 included in the group, but the whole group seemed of one mind in possessing foreknowledge that Rule 44 would not just fail, but would “go down in flames” (to quote someone, since speakers didn’t identify themselves). Additionally, Chris Ritter (whom I don’t know) was given an exclusive pulpit from which to promote his own legislation and tout its benefits without a single question being raised about it. How can the UMR staff maintain that this is representative of what went on at General Conference? I hope… Read more »
Charles Harrison
Admin
Keith, This is a podcast of people’s opinions of the day. It is much like a digital commentary. It only representative of what a group of MethoNerds and a few guests hold as opinions of the day. 4 of the 6 on mic folks were in favor of rule 44. You make some bad assumptions and seem to not understand the format. Instead of accusations, maybe you can find a kinder way to ask questions? Just a thought. Especially since I already addressed your same concerns on another thread on Facebook. Thank you for your future considerations.
Jay
Guest

Thanks Charles for your clarification. I didn’t hear on this specific podcast speak in favor of Rule 44. That doesn’t mean that it didn’t happen, I just didn’t hear it. I also apologize for unnecessary judgement I made. The GC conversation is breaking my heart. Regardless of where one stands on any issue, there is so much brokenness and it is hurting our witness for the church. Praying for reconciliation.

Charles Harrison
Admin

Thank you Jay. I believe we had moved on to other subjects in our limited time. With guests we try to focus on what they bring to the conversation. For instance a Portland pastor or Young People’s Ministries.

Bobbi Sundeen
Guest

It just wasn’t made clear that there were people present who were in favor of Rule 44. I understand your limitations as to time,but the discussion about Rule 44 was pretty brief.

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